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After my last entry, Maria asked if garbage disposals are universal in the US. I said that to my knowledge they are nearly so – I’ve lived in Philadelphia, Houston, Phoenix and now Portland and have cooked in a few other places, everywhere from tiny towns to big cities, small apartments to big houses, and only one shared house I lived in as a student didn’t have one. Marveen disagreed, saying that she’s rarely had one and doesn’t know anyone who does. (I think she’s somewhere in the PNW.)

What say the rest of you? What places you’ve lived have or have not had them?

Mirrored from Dichroic Reflections.

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batwrangler
Jan. 11th, 2013 02:01 am (UTC)
I live in NH and have lots of friends/family in MA. I've never had one and wouldn't call them universal, but they seem fairly common for people on city sewage (and not used at all by people with their own septic systems/leech fields).
marveen
Jan. 11th, 2013 02:46 am (UTC)
Maybe this is the regionalism: the one place I had a disposal was the one place inside city limits (and thus on city sewers).

Most of the people I know well enough to have been in their kitchens are also on septic (I live in rural Mason County, six miles outside Shelton).
polydad
Jan. 11th, 2013 02:10 am (UTC)
My house in New Jersey didn't have one when we moved in, but we bought it from the original owners who'd moved in in 1923, and I installed one when we renovated it.

Other than that, every house I've lived in in California, New Jersey, and Oregon has had one.
wyvernfree
Jan. 11th, 2013 02:17 am (UTC)
My townhouse in Pittsburgh did not have one. That was 20 years ago, though. If they replaced the sink since then, it probably has a disposal now. Most modern sinks seem to include one. That townhouse was a really old building and had a lot of old-fashioned elements like painted-over ends of gaslights and lead glass windows that were distorted from gravity. We found some sooty old newspapers from World War II in the attic.

In college, I lived in a cheap, crummy apartment that had been carved out of part of a decaying fancy hotel in Baltimore. That apartment had a bathtub with feet and-- get this-- a boarded-over DUMBWAITER. No disposal there, either. :-)

Modern urban buildings all seem to have them these days, though.
dichroic
Jan. 11th, 2013 03:58 am (UTC)
Some of the 1880s-or-so houses in the University City area of Philadelphia (where Penn and Drexel are, plus some smaller schools) still have dumbwaiters, or have the places they used to be. A friend of mine who owns one of those houses said that they were built for workers extending the El (metro train) line. His block was built for their supervisors; houses on it range from decrepit to gorgeous now, but the original woodwork in them is beautiful, in those that still have it.

Also, our house near Eugene, built in around 2006, has a dumbwaiter up from the garage to the kitchen. Great for groceries :-)
redbird
Jan. 11th, 2013 02:30 am (UTC)
I've never had one: not in any of the several places I've lived in New York City, nor in the student apartment in New Haven. (They were illegal in New York until recently, I believe to try to reduce the strain on the sewer system, and they're still very rare here.)
pameladean
Jan. 11th, 2013 03:29 am (UTC)
In my experience it depends on the age of the housing, and to some degree also, with rental housing, how fancy and expensive it is. None of my Minneapolis apartments that I lived in after college had a disposal. They were all in buildings dating from the early 20th century. The '50's ranch house David and I had in Massachusetts had one. When we bought a 1926 bungalow in Minneapolis, we installed one along with a dishwasher and other amenities, but nobody had done so before us. Our present 1916 duplex, which I think was lower middle-class housing when it was used in its intended fashion, has none in either kitchen.

When I was about eight my parents had a house built in a new subdivision, and it had the first dishwasher and the first disposal any of us had ever had or seen. This would have been in 1961 or so, in Missouri. The older houses we lived in later in Omaha, Nebraska did not have disposals. In one house we installed one.

P.
quietann
Jan. 11th, 2013 03:41 am (UTC)
I agree with the others. Disposals and septic systems don't really mix well, so you won't find them in houses that aren't on the public sewer, or a lot of older houses that were built before the sewer was put in.

We aren't on the sewer, so we don't have one. I don't miss it that much; sure, dealing with sink strainers is sometimes gross, but it's not terrible.
dichroic
Jan. 11th, 2013 04:13 am (UTC)
Not terrible at all; I've lived without one in both Taipei, Taiwan and Eindhoven, in the Netherlands; I don't think that's common either place. It's kind of annoying, though, because those are urban areas, so you don't have a disposal but you can't have a compost pile either. The stuff you'd put down a disposal is most likely to stink, so you have to keep a lid on your trash and take it out frequently.

My in-laws have both a compost pile and a garbage disposal; I don't think they get much use out of the latter.
joyeuce
Jan. 11th, 2013 01:28 pm (UTC)
I'm intrigued by this discussion, having never to my knowledge even seen what you're talking about. Are they for all food waste, or only compostable, or what?

We have a garden so can compost. But if we didn't, we could put all our compostable stuff in a council-provided bin (as we do with the non-compostable food waste), which is collected every week with the rubbish/recycling. Does the US not have similar services?
lauradi7
Jan. 11th, 2013 01:47 pm (UTC)
council-provided bin (as we do with the non-compostable food waste), which is collected every week with the rubbish/recycling. Does the US not have similar services?

My daughter has that option in Oakland, CA (but doesn't use it because the compost goes into the garden) and I know of other municipalities are considering it, but not most places. In much of the US, food waste goes in the bin/bag with other "trash," thence into the landfill or incinerator.
dichroic
Jan. 11th, 2013 11:10 pm (UTC)
Food waste that's not too hard (nothing woody, for example - I wouldn't put grape stems in.) I'm sure some places in the US have compost collection (usually any question along the lines of "Do they have ___ in the US" can be answered with "Yes, some places") but I've never lived anywhere that had it.
mrissa
Jan. 11th, 2013 03:59 am (UTC)
I have had them in Omaha, NE, in multiple houses; in Minneapolis suburbs in multiple houses; in Lawrence, KS, in a house; and in two different apartments in the Bay Area. But there is a strong element of selection there: my mother and I would both not at all enjoy dealing with a kitchen without one, and would tend to put a lack in the negative column when considering features and choosing between places to live.
stillnotbored
Jan. 11th, 2013 03:59 am (UTC)
With the exception of the apartment I lived in in Ohio, which was in a building built in 1939, every house or apartment I've ever lived in had/has a garbage disposal.
joycemocha
Jan. 11th, 2013 04:03 am (UTC)
I haven't had one in a house (and I've lived both urban and rural), but I had one in a late-70s era apartment here in Portland.
merriehaskell
Jan. 11th, 2013 04:08 am (UTC)
I'd say something like 80% of the houses I've had cause to know about having one, have had one. Fewer in houses with septic tanks. Fewer in older houses. (I've mostly been in the know with houses in Michigan and North Carolina.)
hobbitbabe
Jan. 11th, 2013 04:11 am (UTC)
I first encountered them when I was living in Ohio. When I moved into an Ontario house that had been renovated in the, probably 1970s, it had one as well - but as soon as we started our own round of kitchen renovations the contractor and plumber informed us that it would be illegal for them to reinstall it.

They don't seem to be illegal in Alberta, but I would avoid having one, both because they frighten me and because I think they're an inappropriately extravagant use of potable water. In the building I currently live in, some ongoing drainage problems prompted the condo board to pay to have them removed from all units that still had them, since the stuff that went through the disposal was still more likely to block the pipes than what went down ordinary sinks.
liret
Jan. 11th, 2013 04:16 am (UTC)
My grandmother's house, where I'm living now, has one. The two houses I grew up in (New England) and two apartments I've lived in (New Orleans) haven't had them. I didn't think they were a common thing.
navhelowife
Jan. 11th, 2013 01:35 pm (UTC)
My inlaws put in one about 10 years ago. Same time they installed a dishwasher.
I grew up with one in Northern VA, can't think of a house, except maybe the dump we lived in in California in the early 90's, that hasn't had one. Although our one in TX didn't work very well. When we lived overseas we did not have one.
l_empress
Jan. 11th, 2013 02:39 pm (UTC)
I've never had one (once in a hotel, I think). I remember the first time I saw one in use and thinking, "what a waste of water!" I don't know whether carting away solid trash is more or less ecologically sound, but -- having lived through water shortages in an area that usually has enough rain -- I would not want to liquefy my trash.
xiphias
Jan. 11th, 2013 04:10 pm (UTC)
We own a three-family. The first floor has a garbage disposal; the other two don't. Lis and I have occasionally discussed installing one, but haven't yet bothered. It wouldn't be too difficult -- they're like a couple hundred bucks, and the plumbing and electrical are simple enough that I think I could do it myself. But, like I said, I've not bothered.

I'd estimate that over half of the kitchens I know have garbage disposals, but not MUCH over half.
blythe025
Jan. 11th, 2013 05:46 pm (UTC)
They are pretty common in California and Alaska, both places I've lived, where they are mostly standard. Don't know about other areas.
countrycousin
Jan. 12th, 2013 03:15 am (UTC)
Current and previous 2 places, on sewer systems, had them. Previous place unit was old and ineffective. In the two previous places we had back yards and composted extensively, used disposal little. Here we are in a condo in the middle of (Vermont's version of) urbia. But our garbage collector has started collecting compost. Trial system, but the state talks about requiring it in a few years. Purely voluntary now - not particularly convenient, and only some residents use it. But our disposal now is used seldom. [Lemon rinds - makes a nice smell. :-) ]
amaebi
Jan. 12th, 2013 03:19 am (UTC)
I would say No. (And thank heavens.)
debsiobhan
Jan. 12th, 2013 02:56 pm (UTC)
I've pretty much always lived in a home with a garbage disposal (or at least for the last 45 years I have). Every appartment and house except a mobile home we rented in college. That covers MD, PA (Philly area) and the eastern panhandle of WV.
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